Conversation with Ashtar
…the only thing we would ask for more is to look up and then post everything you see, to help break this, this silence. And it is not even a code of silence, it is a treachery of silence that has been formed upon the third, upon Earth, to deny our existence…
Geoffrey West: Greetings and blessings to all, and welcome to An Hour with an Angel, with Linda Dillon, channel for the Council of Love, and Steve Beckow, editor of the2012scenario.
I’m Geoffrey West filling in for GD. Today’s guest is Ashtar. And with that, I will turn that over to you, Steve.
Steve Beckow: Thank you, Geoffrey, and welcome to our show, Ashtar.
Ashtar: Oh, thank you for inviting me. I am honored to be here! So I welcome everybody, above and below. I welcome those who are of the fleets, and I welcome those who [wherever?].
SB: I’m not sure if you remember, but we talked back in August of 2009, through Suzy Ward?
A: I have a very long memory. [laughs]
SB: Well, I very much…
A: Probably much longer than many human beings. And so, yes. And you know, dear friend, that we have talked, you and I, intermittently. You have not identified me as Ashtar, but there have been many times when you have been asking about happenings with the Galactic or Intergalactic forces, where I have been present and made my thoughts or my information known to you.
SB: Well, thank you very much. I know that I experience a remarkable amount of love for you. And I look at that and I say, “But I don’t even know Ashtar!” So, maybe what you’re saying explains it. Thank you.
Many of our listeners, Ashtar…
A: And you do know me. Many of you know me. So do not rule that out, either.
SB: How is that, Ashtar? Can you explain a little more?
A: It happens on many levels. It happens in other lifetimes, other dimensions, other realities. It happens when you do work, or send one of your aspects to do work with Archangel Michael, for often in those situations we…our paths cross, we run into one another. But you feel my presence. No, I do not appear in your living room or in your bedroom or anywhere else. But you do know me. And you have known me…
SB: I look forward to…
A: …from other lifetimes as well. Many of you have.
SB: Thank you. Many of our listeners are familiar with you as Ashtar the Commander, but fewer may be familiar with you as Ashtar the person. Would you like to share with our listeners some of your personal history — where you’re from, what dimension you prefer to conduct your operations in, whether you have family or not, and so on?
A: I would be pleased to talk to you about who I am. For yes, there are many who simply think of me, or know me, as a star-fleet commander. But I am part of a family, of course. And I am part of a family that you have all known. As a person, let me tell you how our Blessed Mother, our Divine Mother, often refers to me, and that is as an impetuous young man. And I hope this makes you smile.
SB: [laugh] It makes me chuckle!
A: For that has been my nature. In many ways, I am an adventurer, and when there has been a call to service or a call to freedom or a call to love, I am always there with my hand up. I love to go exploring. My joy, yes, of course my joy comes in those that I work with. And often you will call me commander, but commander does not have the same meaning or charge in our realm that it does in yours. It simply means that I work with many, many of the star-fleet.
There are people, humans and otherwise, hybrids, upon the planet that often try to put me on a pedestal. As a being, as an inter-dimensional being currently conducting my work, my life, from the fifth dimension, because that is where I am assigned right now, I want you to know that I am a being who loves my family — not just the mate, the partner, that I am so fortunate to have, and what you would think of as offspring (we tend to conduct that aspect in different ways) — but also my expanded family. And as part of that expanded family, I include many on Earth, but I also include the Great White Brotherhood, the Brotherhood of Light, the Galactic Federation, the Galactic Councils, and yes, even the Intergalactic Council.
We are all very much inter-related. And in many ways the arrival, or the traveling, to Earth during this time, well, during this very elongated time, has in many ways been a family affair. And you say, “Well, why would that be, or how would that be?” We travel together because we are a star family, we are a soul family, and we are united in purpose. We are united in vision. But we also give each other love and support.
So, it is not clear and distinct separations that you would tend to think of or make upon the Earth. If you were to think of me as a man — because in many ways, as you know, I am Adam Kadmon, Ad-man, hu-man — we share this. You can think of me as your helpful next-door neighbor. You can think of me as the guy down the street, around the block, that is more than willing to help you with projects, that is more than willing to listen to your troubles, that is more than willing to listen to your heartbreak or your disappointments.
This is what many do not think of me as. They simply think of as some form of elite commander in the sky. Many tales of me have been greatly exaggerated! I do not bring myself to you as some elevated being, I bring myself to you this day as brother, as fellow traveler, joined in heart with you. Yes, to assist the humans and Gaia, Shan, to raise up into the fifth dimension, to accompany her on her journey home, and to accompany you.
Our mission, my mission and our mission, has always been one of love. My service, my soul commitment, is to Lord Sananda, who many of you think of as Jesus Sananda, and to bring that consciousness, that level of love to the Earth.
But understand, for us to do that, for us to reach a place where we could assist you, we had to learn that ourselves. We had to be in that place ourselves. So, I am asking of you, do not put us, do not put me, on some distant pedestal. I am a working man, albeit different, although I appear in human form, often. So, I am like you.
SB: What you mentioned….
A: I cherish my family. I cherish my workers. I cherish my friends. There have been times in this process of becoming — and understand when I say, this process has been going on for us far longer than humans have memory — but there have been times in my journey where I have misstepped, where I have wandered, where I have questioned whether I was on the right track. I have experienced all that you go through. It is not foreign or unheard of. All of us have.
That is why we’re here to help. It’s because we do understand. And in that understanding we see such potential for this planet, this planet of love, a planet that was created purposely for the experience of love — love in form, love in every form. So not only are we here to help, we are also here to witness, to be part of this magnificent unfoldment.
So, when the family travels, who in your family would wish to miss such an occasion? Certainly none in mine.
You have asked where do I come from, and my history is long. And there are many planets and many…universes that I have existed within. So, what you are saying is you want me to name a place where I feel at home. And in fact the place that I feel most at home, above and below, is in the new Jerusalem. Failing that, where I feel most at home is when I return to the heart of One, when I sit with my beloved brothers and Father, our Mother. Yes, like you, of course, I do that daily. But the time will come when all of us will return to Source, to that pure light.
In the meanwhile, I am known from many places — Arcturus, Venus — for I have been part of the Kumara effort, shall we say. Pleiadian sector is one of my favorite playgrounds. I thank you for asking who I am, because not many do.
SB: That’s very educational to hear your answer, Ashtar.
I just want to mention for our listeners that you referred to Adam Kadmon, and that references to the Adam Kadmon template, which is the human template. But both you and Hatton have said oftentimes that people say they’re channeling you and they’re not. Could you tell us a little bit about how you — perhaps you’ve spoken to Hatton — how you feel when people claim to be speaking for you and they’re not?
A: Oh, I don’t let that upset me at all. Because their heart and their intentions tend to be good. Now, you understand that is why long ago — well, long ago in your terms — we had reiterated some rules of channeling and engagement, but many, many channels put these by the wayside. But yes, that is why I’ve asked you this day to please not to put me on a pedestal or put me into a slot that does not belong to me. There are many who wish for me to step forward as if I am the guy in charge. Well, I am not in charge.
Yes, of course I am a commander of an entire fleet, and that is a sacred honor and a trust that has been given to me. How do I feel when people say that they are channeling me, and it is not my voice or my heart, or my soul that is flowing through? I look at it with interest. I look at it and I wonder, what on Earth are they doing? And I mean that quite literally. What on Earth are they doing? But I know that their intention is good, and that they desperately would wish to be channeling me. So, I often will give them a little nudge, and even a wave, and say, “Hey! I am over here!”
But do I interfere with them? Do I interfere with their free will to express what they believe? No. Now, you say, “But, Ashtar, this results in a great deal of misunderstanding.” But that is all right! Because one of the primary things that you as a collective, and as every individual are learning, is how to discern, how to select what feels like truth, what feels like love.
You can tell when I am channeling, because of the connection with Lord Sananda. And so anything that I bring forth has need to be in alignment with those that I serve, with the mission that I have chosen. So when it feels as if I am laying down the law, that I am ordering anybody to do anything, then you can trust that this is not me.
Now, I have been known to strongly suggest, and to outline scenarios that if you choose not to follow this advice what might occur. But I do not command humans, hybrids, or even my own fleet in the way that some people assume. Because that would be…it would be the antithesis of our vibration. It is not that we choose not to do that, it is that we — it is not possible, it is not the way we operate, it is not within the fiber of our being.
It is difficult — well, I will use that word — it is difficult enough to step down our vibrations and holding that in the fifth dimension. So, we certainly do not want to go really much lower than that. And in that reality, in that place, some of these other channels are very clearly not of that vibration or frequency [vibrational frequency?].
Now, the other thing I do when I witness or when one of my family or friends or fleet witness someone saying, “This is Ashtar!” — well, what I do afterwards, after they have finished what they believe to be a very clear transmission, is I pat them on the shoulder, I invite them….
I have said many times that there are different voices that I can and will use. When Sananda walked the Earth as Jesus, as Yeshua, he did not simply speak to one person. He did not simply speak to his apostles or disciples. Quite the contrary, he would speak to whoever would listen. And even when they wouldn’t listen, he would speak. That’s what got him into so much trouble. And we sit sometimes and we laugh about that, because it is part of a human experience.
Now, I do not put myself on the same sacred plane as Sananda. Oh, there are many who would like me to, but I do not. So, I nudge people who channel me, and I ask them, if you are eager to be my voice, then let me help you, because each being has different realms and audiences that they can reach out to. I’m eager for my messages of transformation and of our presence. I have said to you that, as I have become, that there were hardships or challenges, or things that I did not get exactly right.
One of the things that I did — prematurely, shall I say — was I broke the code of silence, and I broke the code of silence by beginning to channel through people, through receptacles, through transmitters, a mite early. But I was so eager, not only to hold out warnings, caution signs, for humanity, I wanted you to know of our presence, of our role, of our help. I was anxious to enter into that dialogue.
So, when a channel, perhaps, jumps the gun and says they are channeling me when they are channeling other, hmm, inter-dimensional beings that are not part of me, I do not chastise them. I certainly would never punish them. That is never my place. That would be of judgment. But I do understand how they have perhaps jumped the gun, and being one who jumped the gun in breaking the code of silence, I completely understand.
There is no such thing as punishment. I can hear all of your listeners saying, “Well, what happened when you broke this code of silence?” And the answer is, nothing — nothing at all, other than people finding it humorous that I was so impetuous. And once it was done, it was done. The floodgate was open.
You know, we work, we play, we be…with many of the other realms, with the angelics of every level, because we know that you often like to think of the angelic realms in terms of hierarchy. We work with many of the ascended masters, all of which you are familiar with, all of who have committed to Earth, especially St. Germain. But we do not interfere, and in the same way we do not interfere with human beings.
SB: Okay. I’d like to ask you a question about something I’m unclear about. What is the relationship between the Ashtar Command and the Galactic Federation?
A: The Ashtar Command is part of the Galactic Federation, the same way as we have a seat at the Intergalactic Council. I have had a stint, you might say a selection, election, as head of that Galactic Federation. But it is rotated much the way — well, much the way it could be rotated upon the planet of Earth, in your political realm. Our relationship is that we are part and parcel of the Galactic Federation.
Is the Ashtar Command the Galactic Federation? No. Are we a very big part of it? Yes. Because of the size and the numbers of our vessels, not because of any type of what you would think of as power plays.
SB: You mentioned that you operate on the fifth dimension, and I presume that a lot of Galactic Federation personnel do as well. But that’s not to say that your own preferred plane is the fifth dimension, is it?
A: Oh, no, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that what we have done is we have brought our vibrations to the fifth dimension in order to be at a place where we can meet you. If you are to think of the human realm and what is available currently to you, if you were looking for me, I would be out of the realm of human experience. So, let us make that clear as well. But if you were to…
SB: That means…
A: Excuse me?
SB: That means above the twelfth dimension, is that correct?
A: That is correct.
SB: Thank you.
A: But if you were to seek me in the realm that is available to you in the human realm right now, then you would find me in the twelfth. But our vibration right now, of the entire fleet, is brought to the fifth. The fifth, with a great deal of fluctuation to the seventh, because there are many human beings who are ready for the seventh as well.
SB: Can I now — can I stop you there for a moment…
A: Yes.
SB: … and have you explain to our listeners…well, let me preface it by saying apparently a lot of us star-seeds come from higher dimensions, but here in the third we’re completely blind and deaf and dumb to our original dimensionality. With the fleet, with people coming from the higher dimensions and [leaving? living?] on the fifth, how does it work? Do you, too, lose your remembrance? Do you…can you see each other? How does it work to have people of higher dimension working side-by-side with people of another, perhaps lower dimension?
A: We don’t lose a single thing. That is part of the deal. It is really only in your density, because we would not even call the third dimension that you are experiencing the real third dimension experience. So, you are in the density of a construct, an illusion, that you think is the third dimension. So, you are not even fully in the third dimension. You are gaining ground, yes, and you are experiencing moments when you are in the fourth or the fifth.
But no, once you have gained access to the higher dimensions, you are not stuck there. It is not like a brick wall or a veil is dropped in between dimensions. Because, for us, that would be unbearable. It would. You, of Earth, who are breaking free of the old third, you have the toughest job. You have the hardest line to toe, and yes, of course, the greatest opportunity of service. But no.
So, for example many who are serving with the fleet are from the ninth. But that does not mean that they cannot travel to the eleventh and be with the ascended masters, or the ascended masters travel into the fifth so that the vibration can be filtered down in an acceptable way to the human race, or to us. So, no.
Think of it as molecules, as atoms of water, of molecules of water in a jug, or in a bucket. And these are free flowing. So you can flow with all your qualities intact from the twelfth to the seventh to the fifth. And even to the third. But that has been what we would refer to almost as a no-fly zone, as you are well aware of.
SB: Very much so. I think it’s interesting what you just said, that the…to be with the ascended masters on the eleventh dimension. I think many of our listeners may think that the ascended masters are on the fifth, and helping us to join them. But in fact many of them are — exist on a much higher plane than that. I don’t think that’s generally known.
A: No, it is not generally known. And what happens — think of it this way — is that we can take your hands from the fifth — because that is where you learn to manipulate change, to be able to begin to create in different ways — and we can take your hands, gladly, joyously, and show you the way to the higher realms.
It is not that the fifth is in any way incomplete. And you are quite correct, because many of the ascended ones come, and they will be with us on board ship, and they will talk with us. We will plan, we will guide, we will formulate. Because even within the unfoldment of the plan, the restoration of the Earth, there are plans within plans within plans. And one of the things that you may have already learned about us is that we do love to communicate.
Now, our communication is seldom verbal the way that I am speaking to you this day. But let us say the advantage of that is that volumes can be spoken in an instant. And very often, when the ascended ones are with us, and we are maintaining — can we say that? — our fifth dimensional vibration, and they arrive, it is like a blast of sun, until they adjust.
No, we do not put them to adjustment chambers or anything like that, because they are welcome to come however. But the modification, the modulation that takes place is so that we can be with you! And once we are, once we are on this what you can think of as a similar playing field — and there are many delightful qualities of the fifth dimension; do not get us wrong! — but what it does is it opens the doors to new possibilities, new realms.
SB: I’m going to ask you two questions and allow you to divide your time between them. Hopefully we’ll have time for more, but…. The first question is if you could give our listeners an update on what’s happening with Disclosure currently. And the second question — this is a very much harder question, and I’m not even sure how to formulate it — I — is — I — remember — I’m sure you know about the Neptune expedition and how it didn’t materialize. And I’m wondering if you could give us some sense of what we need to think of, as third dimensional terrestrials, of how to be with higher galactics.
I worry, for instance, that our thoughts may be toxic to you. Or something else that we’re doing may be unpleasant or troublesome. And I think we need to begin to open up that conversation about how to be with a higher dimensional galactic if you’re a third dimensional terrestrial. So I have those two questions.
A: You’re absolutely correct.
SB: Well, please, tell us.
A: First, let us speak to this issue of Disclosure. Now, I have already shared with you my personal inclination to be rather impetuous. And so, I am known often for jumping the gun. And I can tell you that I am very anxious to jump the gun in this issue of Disclosure. Because what is happening on your global level is that there are more and more sightings, more and more experiences that people are having, both with my command, with those who are of the Intergalactic Forces of the Galactic Federation.
They are so numerous as to be overwhelming! And yet what is occurring is the political will, and the political will influenced in the name of national security — and it doesn’t matter what nation you are talking about — but in the name of national security, the media is controlled. And so most of these exposures, most of these visitations, most of these sightings, most of these contact situations are not treated as viable or they are blocked entirely.
Your best bet to hear about the sightings is to turn on your radio at 3 a.m. Now, this is far better since we have given you, and you have adopted, the universal internet. Because this is a vehicle for us to expose and to have a communication channel open between us. So, know that that has been a gift that we have given you.
Now, you are particularly in a period in the United States of America — which is one of the places where we want to be known very clearly, and that is also due to some of the influence of St. Germain — but they are in what you call an election year, and everybody is frightened about saying anything.
We hold by what has been told to you, both by the Intergalactic Council, by the Federations, by many. And now you hear it from me. How Disclosure will come forth — it has already begun, of course; you know that — but it will come forth as casual conversation, as a planted question, and very likely, during the US election campaign, it will be one of the tipping points.
You know, oh yes, people who are star-seed sometimes do lose track of their way. And we dare say that Obama has certainly had his experiences of being human, but do not forget that he is a star brother. And so this is the vehicle that we are looking to use. Yes, we do have his cooperation, both in a mental and on a soul level. So, look to Disclosure.
We are increasing, and with permission — so that you do not think that I am jumping the gun yet again and wishing for the human beings to see us — we have increased the number of fly-bys, the availability for you to clearly see our ships, not only the smaller space vehicles, not only what we would call expeditionary vehicles, such as the science labs. Many are coming to the healing ships every night. But you will also have — and if you were to check records, if you were permitted to check records — and there is always such a thing as leaks, you know — of the FAA, you would see that the motherships have been seen many, many times. But we are increasing that.
What we are also increasing is the number — and this is not just true of the Ashtar Command, this is true of the Galactic Federation, it is true of the Unified Forces of the Outer Galaxies — many beings, part of our forces, who come to Earth — listen to what I say — as fifth dimensional beings are being landed upon your soil every day. This has begun in earnest last May with a landing of about 45,000 troops. That has been brought up to about half a million, and it will continue. So that these beings, who at first may appear to be slightly, hmm, disorganized, or dissociative, they are coming to help anchor not only the energy, but working with the vibration of the human collective, both for Ascension, but also for elimination of the fear factor that so many of the human beings have with regards to their star brothers and sisters.
Your media thrives — and this is something we do not understand — your media, your movies, your television, your fiction, thrives on the drama of mayhem, of destruction, of death, and of course of human victory over your star brothers and sisters. And notice, I do not say “extraterrestrials.” We are your family!
We are using a huge contingent of those arriving on Earth to begin to shift that vision of mayhem in your media. So you are going to start to see a difference in how we are presented. Oh, and don’t think we can’t do it very rapidly. My friend, we have the technology.
So, Disclosure will be inevitable. Yes, and I know of this channel’s hesitation ever to give dates, but look to the summer months. We are almost there. And there has need to be that breakthrough, because we want to help.
Now, you ask about the Neptune, and you should know that the Ashiras are part of my family. That is part of the lineage…
SB: Can I just interrupt and say you are now talking about Grener and his son, Ashira, and the rest of the Ashiras, and that he’s president of the Intergalactic Council, is that correct?
A: Yes, that is correct.
SB: Thank you.
A: When we sit — and I have a seat currently on that Council, as representative — well, we do not report to Greener, do not get me wrong, because it is like a United Nations model. Your United Nations models come and have been modeled on ours.
So, your question is how does this happen, and are there ways in which we interact? When we see — and we do very close monitoring and support you know, of our forces that arrive on Earth, and as we say, they are keeping their fifth dimensional vibration — the reason why they often seem dissociative or dislocated is because what they are greeted with in terms of human emotion, drama, addiction, nastiness, is very, very disconcerting.
Of course they arrive heavily, heavily shielded. But to even witness, let alone be the recipient of such disrespectful treatment — you are quite right, it is toxic to our very souls.
Can you imagine, if you invited someone to your home for dinner, and you prepared a feast for them, and then they walk through the door, and rather than greeting you with consideration and honor, they began to vilify you? And to speak of all your shortcomings, and that you were unworthy, and that your welcome and your home was unworthy, and then proceeded to soil on your carpet? Very often, this is how human beings act with us.
I do not say this to criticize or judge. But there is a great deal of demand that comes from the human beings stuck in the old third dimension. There is a great deal of, “Where’s mine”? rather than, “Welcome,” and, “How can I help? How can I serve?” And that is our watchword, that is our code: How can we serve? How can we help? Not only the human beings on Earth, but each other.
Every day — what you think of as a day — every hour, we observe each other, we help to adjust vibrations, we assist each other. So, when there is an aggressive vibration that comes towards us — and I know there have been many channels that have brought me forward as a very aggressive being, and that is not so; am I assertive and clear? Yes. But I am not aggressive. Otherwise, I would interrupt those channels; I would not honor their freedom to do what they do — so, when we have that type of aggression, when we see somebody who is still filled with pain and sorrow, and a great deal of debris, it presents a challenge for us, because we are not going to lower our vibration below fifth dimension. We are not going to do that.
So, your sweet question about how to interact with us: embrace us in love. Embrace us, approach us in gentleness. Approach us in kindness. For that was Grener’s desire as well, to have a family reunion. It is certainly my desire.
We wish to be one with you. So when you lead with your heart, when you lead with your delightful personalities that are not being led by ego — and it is not that there is no place for ego, it is part of your uniqueness, but it is not king — it is the gentleness we seek. It is the sweetness of union that we seek.
So, when you come to us and the first thing we hear is, “Why haven’t you…?” it hurts. It hurts. And I speak to my friends of the angelic realm, too. It hurts them. Because they do what they know is for the highest good. We will not over-ride you. But we do want to meet you halfway, to lift you up. We’re waiting.
You have learned so much in a very short period of time. You are letting go of struggle. You are letting go of all the illusions that have been placed upon the human collective — for eons. Now, you are seeing the sun breaking through, and you are seeing the light and the sun of your own being. We could not possibly ask for more.
Well, the only thing we would ask for more is to look up and then post everything you see, to help break this, this silence. And it is not even a code of silence, it is a treachery of silence that has been formed upon the third, upon Earth, to deny our existence.
Now, there are times when I would laugh and say, “Is that not absurd?” But you know what? I am tired of pretending it doesn’t matter, because it does. We acknowledge you. And we acknowledge the best of you.
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SB: Thank you, Ashtar….
A: [ ? ? ] as well. Thank you for having me. Farewell.
SB: That was so helpful. We need to hear more. I hope you’ll come back again. Thank you very much, Ashtar.
A: I would be honored to.
SB: Thank you.
Channeled by Linda Dillon 04-23-12 An Hour With An Angel