The Arcturians via Sue Lie and Steve Beckow, part 2, July 15, 2017
Transcript: An Hour With the Arcturians, July 13, 2017 – Part 2/2
(Concluded from Part 1, yesterday.)
Thanks to Dana for our transcript.
An Hour with the Arcturians and Steve Beckow
July 13, 2017
http://suzanneliephd.blogspot.com/2017/07/an-hour-with-arcturians-and-steve.html
Being such as those are clearly fully ascended inter-dimensional beings who have chosen to take on a clay vessel, which is a very great sacrifice, a greater sacrifice then anyone [might guess].
It would be very difficult to understand what a great sacrifice that is and how much they love Earth or they love those people or they love that group or whatever it is that drew them there. They love them unconditionally and very, very deeply that they would make that immense sacrifice.
Steve: Yes, I have heard that we give up our knowledge of who we are and all our capabilities. Yes, I get the sacrifice.
Coming back to our working together, we are going to be building Nova Earth and apparently during the transitional period light workers will have money to do that. But again, we are babes in the woods in this whole area. What should we keep in mind in this case, in regards to how we work together, when we approach this huge task of building a new world, a new order.
Arcturians: It’s all about one’s state of consciousness, about maintaining a high enough state of consciousness that you can maintain an open heart and maintain complete and total grounding with the planet.
Steve: And how would we do that would you suggest, meditation?
Arcturians: Meditation, dedication. It’s not so much how you do it as it’s keeping doing it. You know, it’s one thing to have a wonderful walk in the woods and a visit with a friend and come back home and relax in your comfortable chair going into a very deep meditation where you have a beautiful, wonderful experience.
It is another thing, to take that beautiful, wonderful experience out into the world where people are hungry, people are angry, people are fighting and to not fall out of that state of consciousness.
Steve: An inordinate amount of light workers have suffered quite a bit of trauma in their lives, quite a bit of abuse. My understanding is that was partly to make sure that their hearts are open to what’s happening for terrestrials, etc.
But nonetheless, it does prove hard for some people to come back from that amount of abuse and feel these more refined feelings that we are talking about. Do you have any advice for them?
Arcturians: You look at the known ascended Masters and mostly the ascended Masters because the Angelics, they’re not sharing their initiation as much. But they are having initiations. Well, we will get into that later, if you wish.
But initiations are resets. Whenever one goes through an initiation they look into that which they are now ready to release and to release it not by being angry or scared or minding. They release it because of one reason; Because that thing that they are releasing [if they don’t release it] will diminish their ability to complete their divine mission.
Once one is at that state of consciousness, those releases usually are not simple. They usually have to – well, as an example, look at Jesus. People know more about his life. He had to release his homeland. He had to release his family. He had to release a lot of his friends.
Then after they go through the release, they go through that persecution stage where people say, “Who are you and why do you think you should do this. I want proof that you really are who you say you are.”
And usually that higher-dimensional being will go through what will appear to be a near-death experience and generally what that near-death experience does – and you are quite aware of that (1) – it makes you have to learn how to totally let go and still hang on.
And once you can let go and hang on then you have done the impossible. You have done the opposite while wearing a Third-Dimensional body. And when you do the opposite while wearing a Third-Dimensional body it expands your consciousness into the Fifth Dimension where it is not impossible.
The Fifth Dimension doesn’t have opposites. It doesn’t have polarities. It doesn’t have a good. It doesn’t have a bad. It doesn’t have any of that.
So whatever the state of your body is, it’s the state of your consciousness that will determine whether or not one will be able to walk their path and complete it successfully.
Steve: I had an example of expanding one’s consciousness the other day. Kathleen and I were looking at good and bad – who is our epitome of good and bad? When it came to the bad, I chose Hitler and the only way I could experience anything to do with Hitler was to expand my consciousness and hold it.
I actually had a transformational experience at that moment. It went into a higher dimension of consciousness. It was quite incredible, quite amazing to experience.
Arcturians: What happens when one does that is that they can no longer hate that person anymore because they suddenly know how and why that person became that person.
Steve: Yes, or trauma…
You mentioned that an initiation is a reset. What does that mean, “a reset”?
Arcturians: Just like if you download a new program onto your computer you have to reset it. You have to go through a little process so that your computer can accept this whole new way of doing it without fighting with the old way of doing it.
Steve: That’s right. Yes, okay, I understand.
Arcturians: And so then, at some point in time, you turn the computer off for a minute and then you turn it back on and that’s a reset.
Steve: Yes, reboot, reset… It’s part of the installation of the new program. Okay, I understand that now.
It’s funny; you talked about releasing friends, releasing family. I think I’m in that process. I seem to be just interested in bearing down and getting to work, so to speak. I’m not, for instance, interested in chit-chat anymore. Is this a natural process?
Arcturians: It is a natural process… But it is also good to have fun, whatever fun means. Now, if you can incorporate fun into that natural process, that’s a plus. But fun is what brings joy and what opens your heart and you want to keep an open heart because the open heart.
An open heart creates an open mind and an open mind creates an open heart. They work together; like thoughts and emotions. Thoughts and emotions intertwine in every part of daily life.
And to reset, reboot one’s perspective of daily life (because the daily life will be exactly the same) it’s just that that perspective of it has expanded into a higher frequency. And that higher frequency is what allows you to be in the world and not of it. So you still have the physical body but you are not of it.
Steve: I can understand what you’re saying from my experiences of higher-dimensional love. Because everything you’re saying is that way when you are in that experience. You’re just describing how it is when you’re in that experience.
Is that experience that you are describing, is that something that only can happen many years from now? Or is it going to be alot sooner, our destiny?
Arcturians: It has been happening since the dawn of humanity but it happened too much fewer people. In societies in peak, more people experience it. In societies in the fall, less people experience it.
Steve: Well, we are in ascension. Where in ascension does that fit? Is that the ultimate destination that you just described or is that an intermediate experience?
Arcturians: Both and all because that experience is not bound by time or space. It is a Fifth-Dimensional experience.
Steve: Boy, a very interesting subject …
Arcturians: So, in other words, being a Fifth-Dimensional experience, it flows through, around, under, over but it doesn’t ever stop. Because that stopping then would make it Third Dimensional and it would take on form so it’s always keeping that frequency rate.
Steve: And we have to discover how to do that, consistent with our work, because we’re not going to be yogis. (2)
Arcturians: Consistently but if you look at the lives, again of the ascended Masters, they gave it their best shot but they weren’t always that way. They had fits of anger. They had fights with people. They had bad things happen to them but they didn’t let it stop their process of ascension.
Steve: Some of them were even unconscious of anything like ascension or anything like enlightenment. It overtook them.
I think of the case of St. Francis who was the prince of debauch in Assisi and was at the end of a procession snaking its way through town making a lot of noise, with all kinds of musical instruments and he suddenly saw the Holy Spirit and that created St. Francis out of Francesco.
Arcturians: Yes, and he did a lot of good work before that.
Steve: Oh, did he? I didn’t know that.
Arcturians: Well, he did the good work on himself and on those with whom he was intimate or he would not have been able to accept that energy field. It’s a very high-frequency energy field.
It’s almost like if you take a piece of wood and, which is a very low frequency, and you have a fire which is a high frequency; in other words the cells are all oscillating and moving very fast whereas with the wood the cells very slow. You don’t even see them moving. They are but we can’t perceive them. And you throw the wood in the fire, what happens to the wood?
Steve: It is incinerated.
Arcturians: So, in order to ascend there has to be a major component of one’s physicality that is matching that frequency of the frequency of ascension otherwise that frequency weight will just …pfft.
Steve: Right. I didn’t get the frequency rate would just poof. What does that mean in words?
Arcturians: The physical body will disarticulate. Well very often the physical body disarticulates at the time of ascension – not always, but often. And like in the case of Jesus, it was part of the path to have it not disarticulate so that it could be proven that he didn’t die after all.
This is Sue. It is interesting that I pulled the Bible to read from out of nowhere and opened it up to that page about that part of it and it is like… Okay! I grew up with Jesus. I talked to Jesus as a little kid. Jesus is one of my guys.
Arcturians: One of the reasons why ascended Masters take a physical body is because they are here to teach us how to be ascended Masters and people can talk and talk and talk and “ yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah”. But what people listen to is what happens to them. (3)
Can they walk down the street with people throwing stuff at them and people that they had healed laughing at them and still maintain dignity and calm and radiate love?
Steve: Wow! Pretty tough order!
Arcturians: Can a being sit down in front of an old woman that shares rice with you and he knows that the rice is tainted and he eats it anyhow because he doesn’t want to hurt that woman’s feelings?
So they all, if you look at all of their lifetimes, had to go through a similar type of thing, where caring for others is more important than their own continued existence as a human.
Steve: Does the human body burn out under some of these higher-frequency experiences? It seems to me that that would make the assistance of the guides and angels, in the case of humans, very, very important. Do they moderate it or do they keep an eye over the human to see that that doesn’t happen?
Arcturians: What happens often is that the essence can leave the body but keep enough in the body to keep it alive, such as St. Germaine.
And then there is a Guardian – often angels or certain people that will take care of that body (4) – make sure it doesn’t get too hot, doesn’t get too cold, doesn’t get too dehydrated because it is kind of an empty vessel.
It’s just like you have an XKE, you’re not going to leave it parked on the street. You can put it down in one of those deep cellars that those people have for those kinds of cars. You know, somebody’s going to come and turn it on every day and they are going to make sure it gets cleaned…
So someone takes care of the body while the ascended master goes off and does their thing because they are going to need to go to that vessel again until they go through their final ascension where that vessel dies to prove to the people that that person is not dead.
But then, “Oh my heavens, that person came to me in a flash of light. Then, I knew was that person! So then they go, “Wow, that’s what ascension is!”
Steve: Well, of course it isn’t in our case right, because we will be keeping the body?
Arcturians: Yes but that’s because the entire planet is rising to that frequency as well.
Steve: Yes but that was the way it was up until this time in both the period of the fall and the early period of the rise, shall we say.
Arcturians: And that is why it is so vital for the ones that are clearly aware and on that ascension path that they minister to the planet as well because if…
Those who came now, it’s not that they came because, “Oh, we need another religious figure”. No, those who came now is because it is time for the entire planet to move into that higher frequency because this whole area is moving into that higher frequency.
Steve: What difference does that make in the agenda of the other side between a lone avatar coming like Jesus whom is an ascended master and a whole planet ascending? Surely, there is a big difference there.
Arcturians: A big difference. And there have been quite a few ascended individuals to prepare people to be leaders. And then they left and then their group of leaders have been leading and to whatever extent of success because it is difficult. It is difficult to tell people that there is a higher frequency way of dealing with reality.
Steve: Yes it is.
Arcturians: It’s not an easy task at all. But that’s what’s been going on and if you look now at the state of consciousness… I mean if you and I were back in 1950, would we be having this conversation?
Steve: No, not at all. If we had any conversation with you, it would be very stilted and formal. We would just be introducing ourselves.
Arcturians: And would we have had this conversation in 1960?
Steve: I still don’t think it would have been had.
Arcturians: No. How about 1970?
Steve: Hmmm, not yet no.
Arcturians: How about 1980?
Steve: Definitely not. We were heading into a recession and nobody was thinking about spiritualism.
Arcturians: How about 1990?
Steve: No, people were too busy struggling to stay alive.
Arcturians: Isn’t that interesting that that happened right then? You know so that people can feel scared. How about 2000?
There was a little bit of a hype; “Oh it’s the new millennium” there was a bit of a hype that just hyped out, it didn’t last that long.
Then, 2010, 2011, 2012… 2013, 2014… We don’t have to go back very far. This is a new way of thought. This is very new.
Okay, so I (me speaking for Sue) was like, one of the first people to ever put up a website. The Arcturians told me, “Do a website.” I said, “What’s a website?” I didn’t even know. No one knew. I was one of the first websites up.
I was talking about something, very beginning stuff and then they had me get my PhD so I would be better at it. And then they had me do all this other stuff so I went through a huge training process, as all of us did. I’m sure you have a similar story.
So would you like to share some of your story just so people know that you don’t just click your fingers and you are there. No, no, no there are many sacrifices that we have made and many things that we have done that scared that be-Jesus out of us and we did it because we knew we said we would.
Steve: One of the features of my own career is that, while working at the Immigration and Refugee Board, I had to post anonymously. I had a website, Essays of Brother Anonymous, and all of it was done pseudonymously. If I was suspected of writing the material I was writing there, I probably would’ve been turfed right away.
Sue: Also I was “Suzan Carroll” for a long, long time.
Steve: Yes, that’s right. Here’s another one. I had the vision experience in 1987 while in a doctoral program in sociology. Well, after that, I just wanted to write about the study of enlightenment.
Not only did the sociology department tell me I couldn’t, but the religious studies Department said such a study was not within the university’s charter. The religious studies Department! Enlightenment! So yes, it was a hard road.
Sue: Because religion was written over 2000 years ago and no one gets to change it.
Steve: Yes, that’s right. As I’ve said, I’ve been following channeled literature since 1974 but it was always regarded as a kind of a queer kind of pastime or I don’t know what but neither serious spiritual studies nor communication with the invisible was accepted until, oh, recently.
Sue: Communication with the invisibles was called schizophrenia.
Steve: Yeah right! Talking with strange voices!
Sue: In fact, I had all the symptoms of schizophrenia. I learned that when I was getting my PhD. “Oops, I guess I better keep my mouth shut!”
Steve: Yeah right, I didn’t. So yeah, I know what you’re saying. I think we’re running out of time, Sue. It’s so delightful. I wonder if you, or the Arcturians, or both have any final comments, any concluding comments?
Sue: Well, let me ask the Arcturians here, let’s see…
Arcturians: Yes, we the Arcturians would like to share with you, Steve, and with all of those who listen that you are beautiful. You are tomorrow. You are now. You are the beginning. You are the Alpha. You are in Omega. You have immense power inside you and even though you are wearing a Third-Dimensional form, you are not limited to that form.
And You move higher and higher into higher and higher frequencies. You live in outer space. You live in your home world. You are all multidimensional beings that volunteered to wear the very fragile Third-Dimensional form. And we wish all of you congratulations and thank you very much.
Steve: Thank you very much. It’s been a pleasure having you on the show.
Arcturians: Yes, it has been a pleasure communicating with you as well.
Steve: Farewel
Arcturians: Farewell
Footnotes
(1) The Arcturians could only have read my mind and known that I had an out-of-body experience in 1977. I’ve never to the best of my knowledge discussed it with them.
(2) The lightworkers I’ll be working with will be builders of Nova Earth.
(3) This is so true. I would add that what really motivates people is how they feel. If something promises an improvement in how they feel – from sad to glad, for instance – their interest in it may suddenly rise.
(4) Including the body’s elemental?